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S May 28, 2018 at 20:29 history bounty ended Thunderforge
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May 24, 2018 at 8:04 history edited Adriaan CC BY-SA 4.0
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May 3, 2018 at 16:02 history edited Adriaan CC BY-SA 4.0
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May 3, 2018 at 14:39 comment added MSalters There are a few more problems with the ToS vis-a-vis Dutch law. I don't think you can waive the right to a Dutch class-action lawsuit - the USA isn't the only country that has them.
May 3, 2018 at 14:33 answer added MSalters timeline score: 49
May 3, 2018 at 14:24 comment added hvd Thanks for the clarification. I'll hold off on posting my own answer on that because most likely, you'll already get a much better answer from someone far more knowledgeable than myself, but if it takes too long I'll make an effort to put what I've pieced together so far into an answer.
May 3, 2018 at 14:20 history edited Adriaan
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May 3, 2018 at 14:15 comment added Adriaan @hvd ah, it's meant in a broad sense. Either because of data leaks, or because SE starts harassing its users off-site in a manner affecting lots of users, I don't want to actually have to board a flight to New York to get inside their head quarters being slammed down by their lawyers on their turf and rules. I'd like to be able to sign up to a larger lawsuit where people who are actually knowledgeable about this fly to New York and do the actual court case for me and all others affected.
May 3, 2018 at 14:08 comment added hvd Sorry for not being clear enough. I thought that what was suggested on Meta was that SE's GDPR's requirements apply even if the arbitration clause would suggest otherwise. In my example, harassment is covered by completely different laws, unrelated to the GDPR, so the answer could be different.
May 3, 2018 at 14:05 comment added Adriaan @hvd I'm not sure what you mean. I'm no lawyer, hence I barely understand the arbitration clause, but it reads to me that if SE does anything which is bad for its users, the users cannot collectively complain in court. It is suggested in answers and comments on the meta announcing the new ToS that arbitration clauses are in conflict with the GDPR, hence I'm asking about whether I, as an EU citizen, should be concerned about trying to opt-out (which I want), or that the EU law already covers me in that sense.
May 3, 2018 at 14:02 comment added hvd Are you asking only about arbitration in relation to GDPR, or arbitration in general? Unrealistic example: SE employees conspiring to harass users. Is your question meant to cover that too, or should I ask that as a new question? (I think your question doesn't currently cover it, but I'm not sure if that's intentional.)
May 3, 2018 at 13:59 history edited Adriaan CC BY-SA 4.0
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S May 3, 2018 at 13:54 history suggested Ander Biguri
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May 3, 2018 at 13:43 history asked Adriaan CC BY-SA 4.0