Timeline for Volunteer Labor Union in New York State
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| Nov 14, 2019 at 23:55 | comment | added | ohwilleke | @Putvi The point is that an unrecognized union, isn't as a general rule, illegal. | |
| Nov 14, 2019 at 20:53 | comment | added | Putvi | @ohwilleke that is true, but now that NY has union laws, a union must fit into them to be recognized. | |
| Nov 14, 2019 at 20:49 | comment | added | ohwilleke | @Putvi Labor laws recognizing unions post-date unions by several decades. | |
| Nov 14, 2019 at 20:06 | comment | added | Putvi | @bdb484 how is it a union if it can't be recognized? | |
| Nov 14, 2019 at 20:01 | comment | added | Putvi | @ohwilleke "New York state law can choose which groups to give certain benefits, but it can do nothing to stop the formation of the union. – bdb484 " in the comments on my answer is what I was referring to. | |
| Nov 14, 2019 at 20:00 | comment | added | Putvi | @ohwilleke I agree that there are other laws. I'm saying the first amendment does not grant the right to any and all groups as he tried to falsely insinuate in the comments on my answer while voting my answer down, then saying that it would be hard or not recognized in his. | |
| Nov 14, 2019 at 19:57 | comment | added | Putvi | I'm telling you that from knowing a real judge and being in a real courtroom you can see how the law is actually practiced in ways you reading some articles online can not. That isn't meant to insult you, it's just that the intent of the law is clearly not to protect volunteers and outside of a theoretical discussion would never be applied that way irl. | |
| Nov 14, 2019 at 19:53 | comment | added | ohwilleke | @Putvi The National Labor Relations Act isn't and isn't meant to be a comprehensive law covering all kinds of collective action through unions or something similar. It also doesn't cover public sector unions or non-employment related unions (e.g. tenant's unions) organized by, e.g., consumers, or self-employed people. It acknowledges and has some provisions for industry scale rather than employer level units (which works better in fields dominated by small firms) but is primarily for unions with single employer local units. Other law govern some non-NLRA unions (e.g. publc sector unions). | |
| Nov 14, 2019 at 19:52 | comment | added | bdb484 | I can tell you're very proud to have appeared in court that one time, or maybe even multiple times. If you were doing so to litigate questions at the intersection of labor law and the First Amendment, that appearance might be relevant to this discussion. Because it seems more likely that you were testifying about a DUI or something, I don't know how it's related. Anyway, it seems like you're upset at my criticism of your answer, so I'm going to let this conversation cool off till tomorrow. If you still want to engage then, let me know. | |
| Nov 14, 2019 at 19:48 | comment | added | Putvi | It's prob easier for you to quote stuff you think applies from a textbook than to be in court irl though right? | |
| Nov 14, 2019 at 19:46 | comment | added | Putvi | Maybe explaining your answer instead of just reading a book and assuming the words apply to everything when you have never been to court would help more than me taking a class. | |
| Nov 14, 2019 at 19:45 | comment | added | bdb484 | So many great questions! I can tell you're eager to get a basic grasp on constituttional and legal principles, so I'd recommend taking a beginner's-level class on constitutional law. It'll help you sort through all of this. | |
| Nov 14, 2019 at 19:33 | comment | added | Putvi | How does the law exclude those groups yet comply with the First Amendment? | |
| Nov 14, 2019 at 19:33 | comment | added | Putvi | The law specifically leaves out certain groups such as " but shall not include any individual employed as an agricultural laborer, or in the domestic service of any family or person at his home". | |
| Nov 14, 2019 at 19:31 | comment | added | Putvi | This answer is clearly wrong. | |
| Nov 14, 2019 at 19:31 | comment | added | Putvi | Why does the NLRA only cover certain groups if you can form a union for anything? nlrb.gov/rights-we-protect/rights/employee-rights | |
| Nov 14, 2019 at 19:18 | history | answered | bdb484 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |