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Mar 28, 2020 at 0:06 comment added Merry Misanthrope @Nij The question is tagged US. Government proclamations are in no way evidence of authority to issue them. Anyway, none of these proclamations even claim to carry the weight of law. None of them are being enforced in any way. Practically speaking, there is no possibility that they will be. The Second Amendment guarantees that.
Mar 27, 2020 at 23:55 comment added user4657 Oh, I didn't know the USA has the only government in the world! But even if they did, your comment is still wrong. Every state and the federal government has the authority to make such orders, as evidenced by the fact that they already have.
Mar 27, 2020 at 23:50 comment added Merry Misanthrope @Nij No government in the US has the authority to order people to stay at home.
Mar 27, 2020 at 23:49 comment added user4657 The obvious answer, when given national orders to stay at home, is that no, you cannot go driving around the country. The obvious answer, when paying to fix someone else's property, is that no, you don't magically become the owner. Why would people not want those answers? Because it means they can't do what they want. @MerryMisanthrope
Mar 27, 2020 at 23:44 comment added Merry Misanthrope @Nij The obvious answer is yes, but I don't know why that answer would be unwanted.
Mar 27, 2020 at 22:48 comment added user4657 There are also people who feel uncertain about whether they're allowed to go driving around the country in the middle of a pandemic-induced lockdown. The answer is obvious - it's just not the one that is wanted and therefore discounted.
Mar 27, 2020 at 22:05 answer added mckenzm timeline score: 3
Mar 27, 2020 at 12:59 comment added chepner You definitely don't own the washer, but at the same time, it's not clear you ever requested the machine be fixed; the owner did that of his own accord in #5. If you are responsible for paying for repairs, then you should have had the option of saying "no, leave the broken washer and I won't use it", and it doesn't appear you were given that option.
Mar 27, 2020 at 11:34 vote accept conman
Mar 27, 2020 at 9:30 answer added sleske timeline score: 7
Mar 26, 2020 at 20:34 comment added conman @Nij I'm clearly not the only person who felt uncertain about this situation, but if you feel like the answer here is obvious and therefore I should have known it with little effort, then you are obviously free to downvote my question for that reason (or any other reason for that matter). I still disagree that the answer here is obvious, but arguing about that would be even more silly than arguing about a washing machine.
Mar 26, 2020 at 19:42 comment added user4657 You didn't pay for the new machine. You paid the fee for fixing the problem that the old machine didn't work. At no point whatsoever in the whole process did you buy a machine of any kind from anybody. @conman
Mar 26, 2020 at 19:39 comment added user4657 I don't think I should need to point out the difference between a downvote and a closevote, but okay. One is a vote down, one is a vote to close. Do you see where discussion about one of them does not apply to the other? @sleske
Mar 26, 2020 at 19:28 comment added WoJ @conman is the owner supposed to provide you with a working washing machine in the first place? Or is it just something which happens to be there?
Mar 26, 2020 at 17:51 comment added conman @WoJ I'm actually the tenant here. Owner arranged it but is out of state. Service guy showed up, did his thing, and to our surprise said, "Warranty company requires me to collect a $100 deductible at time of service". It was a surprise to us (and probably the owner too), but since the owner wasn't there to pay we went ahead and paid. Figured the best case scenario is we take $100 out of rent next month, and worst case scenario is we at least get a working washer for relatively cheap. So again, I'm not actually worried about the money - just curious about the situation
Mar 26, 2020 at 17:30 comment added WoJ I am not sure I understand: Owner decided to fix the machine on their own, they arranged for the vendor to come and provide the machine. Where does the Tenant comes into play? Who asks them for money? The delivery guy? (so do not pay) The company afterwards? ("why are you even talking to me? talk to the one who contacted you"). I am in France and this is tagged US but I am really curious if there is something specific in the US which would make the Tenant enter the game.
Mar 26, 2020 at 17:09 comment added Matthew Just pay the tenant back for the deductible
Mar 26, 2020 at 13:01 comment added sleske @Nij: It is highly contested whether a "lack of effort" should count against a question. See e.g. Introduce a “general reference” close reason. Also, in this specific case I find the question to be non-obvious even with some effort.#
Mar 26, 2020 at 12:00 comment added conman @Nij some things may be obvious to some, but the fact that the answer here isn't obvious to me isn't a sign that I gave it no thought, nor am I looking for an excuse to claim this as my own. Obviously if I had bought a new one it would have been mine. If the washing machine had been fixed it also would have clearly been the owners. In this case though I paid for the washing machines replacement, and I don't know how that changes the situation.
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Mar 26, 2020 at 4:56 comment added user4657 I feel like downvoting for lack of effort. Paying to fix or repair something that belongs to a different person doesn't magically turn the transaction into a sale or a transfer of ownership.
Mar 26, 2020 at 4:11 answer added Greendrake timeline score: 39
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