Timeline for Is it true that a teacher can't engage/attack a shooter from behind during a school shooting that is in progress?
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| Oct 16, 2023 at 23:49 | comment | added | gnasher729 | Even then, if you are the school teacher of children under attack, they are not total strangers. You have a responsibility to keep them safe (within reason). | |
| May 28, 2022 at 21:23 | comment | added | Davislor | @LorenPechtel At one time, under the English Common Law, someone only had the right to defend close relatives. That has not been true for many years. In every state today, you could use deadly force, if necessary, to defend a total stranger. | |
| May 28, 2022 at 17:08 | comment | added | Graham | @LorenPechtel I don't mean to sound harsh, but extreme claims like yours do need evidence. If the only evidence is "I heard from a bloke down the pub", we can't be expected to give it credibility. ;) Of course there are cases where defending yourself or someone else gets you convicted, but the ones I know of relate to the reasonableness of thinking defense was needed and/or the force used, not the general principle of defending another person. | |
| May 28, 2022 at 15:03 | comment | added | Barmar | @BryanKrause The point of my question was how does the duty to retreat affect the right to defend others? Can you stay and defend someone else even if you personally could retreat? | |
| May 28, 2022 at 14:44 | comment | added | Loren Pechtel | @Graham I don't know where, but I have heard that in some places you can't defend your cohabitation partner. | |
| May 28, 2022 at 7:35 | comment | added | Graham | @LorenPechtel Do you have details of any of those places, please? My understanding (and of course I'm not a lawyer so it's flawed :) is that this is not the case, so if there are particular exceptions then it's worth either improving my answer or adding your own. | |
| May 28, 2022 at 3:56 | comment | added | Loren Pechtel | Unfortunately, in some places there are restrictions on who you can defend. | |
| May 28, 2022 at 1:46 | comment | added | Bryan Krause | @Barmar Quoting from the comment you replied to: "self-defense also applies to defending others who are threatened". Imagining a lawyer who would make the argument says very little about the law... | |
| May 27, 2022 at 18:56 | comment | added | Barmar | I'm imagining a lawyer arguing that the gunman was facing person A, so person B in another direction could have run the other way and out the door. It's hard to imagine a prosecutor making such a case, but maybe a lawyer in in a wrongful death suit. | |
| May 27, 2022 at 18:33 | comment | added | Graham | @Barmar Clearly not, since self-defense also applies to defending others who are threatened. And "duty to retreat" only applies anyway if retreat is possible, which clearly it isn't with a firearm and non-bulletproof walls. | |
| May 27, 2022 at 14:21 | comment | added | Barmar | Would the duty to retreat even apply if you're trying to protect someone else who is incapable of self-defense, such as a teacher trying to protect their students? Unless all of them can retreat together, I imagine the teacher's actions would usually be justified. | |
| May 27, 2022 at 14:01 | history | edited | Graham | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| May 27, 2022 at 11:44 | history | answered | Graham | CC BY-SA 4.0 |