Timeline for Is it legal to use force against a person who is illegally trying to disconnect a hospital patient's life support with intent to kill the patient?
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| May 12, 2023 at 18:38 | comment | added | Tonny | @hszmv Have CPR training myself too. Never had to use it for real (and I hope I never will) although I have been on standby when a colleague had already started CPR before I reached the scene. (Fellow employee had heart-attack at work.) EMS got there very quick so I didn't need to step in to relieve him. Standard practice here is to switch every 10 minutes (if another trained person is available obviously), since EMS can take up to 30 minutes to arrive in some cases. | |
| May 12, 2023 at 16:07 | comment | added | hszmv | @Tonny, Yeah... My medical experience is CPR training when I worked as a lifeguard... which, if you're at the point where you are giving CPR, the vic is unconscious and you're really acting as life support until EMS can arrive with the machines to do the same thing. Mercifully, I never had anything go that far. | |
| May 12, 2023 at 15:21 | comment | added | Tonny | @hszmv :-) Count yourself lucky. I've seen more hospitals on the inside (either for myself or for family members) than I can keep track off. In fact.. As it happens I'm writing this in hospital on my cell-phone while waiting for my wife. She managed to break her wrist a few weeks ago and she is now getting the cast removed. | |
| May 12, 2023 at 15:13 | comment | added | hszmv | @Tonny Thanks. I'm not good with medical stuff, so wouldn't know. | |
| May 12, 2023 at 15:11 | comment | added | Tonny | @hszmv Conscious and being on life-support is nothing weird. E.g. After heart-surgery or lung-surgery it is perfectly normal for a patient to remain on life-support for several days even though he/she is out of anesthesia, because to body isn't quite ready to do it on its own yet. | |
| May 12, 2023 at 15:03 | comment | added | hszmv | @Cadence Per the question, Bob is conscious and does not consent to Mallory's action, which means that Alice would know that Mallory's actions are illegal (how one can be conscious and on life support is beyond me, but if Bob had a will that did not include a DNR statement that Alice is aware of then, that is as good as having a no consent from Bob. | |
| May 12, 2023 at 3:38 | comment | added | Cadence | The fact that Mallory's actions were illegal doesn't mean that Alice knows this. Her use of force could still be unreasonable depending on the facts she had in her possession at the time. | |
| May 12, 2023 at 3:22 | comment | added | Noch | The question reads to me as excluding the first possibility, that Mallory's actions could be construed as lawful. This is emphaised by the sentence you quoted. | |
| May 11, 2023 at 22:06 | comment | added | Simon Crase | @Lag The OP's questions was: "Is it legal to use force against a person who is illegally trying to disconnect a hospital patient's life support with intent to kill the patient?" How can Mallory's action be lawful if he is illegally trying to disconnect the equipment? | |
| May 11, 2023 at 11:17 | history | edited | Lag | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| May 10, 2023 at 14:25 | comment | added | Lag | @Someone I should add something like, "indefinite treatment regardless of the circumstances" because there are circumstances when it is lawful to withdraw treatment. | |
| May 10, 2023 at 14:21 | comment | added | Someone | Indefinite treatment isn't required even for conscious patients who want to continue treatment? | |
| May 10, 2023 at 9:31 | history | answered | Lag | CC BY-SA 4.0 |