Timeline for Home Self Defense: Sweden
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Jun 6, 2023 at 17:26 | comment | added | MichaelK | @PeteB. If it had been knives, it would put things in another light, as it is a large leap up the escalation ladder. But — again — it is the defendants subjective appraisal of the situation that we comparing against against when judging the defending action. And a home invasion is in itself a very large leap up the same ladder, plus the terror of having one's home invaded by a stranger will in Sweden be considered in the defender's favour. So, the character is right in that abuse of the self defence right might lead to a conviction, but wrong in that simply preparing for it will not. | |
Jun 6, 2023 at 17:21 | comment | added | MichaelK | @PeteB. Well, my recollection of the series was that it was not exactly scrupulous on the realism. The point is: with a home invasion in progress, it can never be murder. The character is flat out wrong there. Also preparing for defending against home invasion cannot speak against them, because the act of placing blunt force objects around the house is not illegal. And — besides — those clubs can be used to whack on the arms, legs and torso, which in the case of a home invasion by someone that is perceived as threatening is very easily justifiable. (continued) | |
Jun 6, 2023 at 17:08 | comment | added | Pete B. | @MichaelK I think it was actually in "The Girl Who Played with Fire", and no I don't have a location. This question was posted 3.5 years ago. The person being stalked was Erika Berger if I recall correctly. | |
Jun 6, 2023 at 17:04 | comment | added | MichaelK | @PeteB. I have that book, can you pinpoint the chapter? It might help to get some context., | |
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Jun 6, 2023 at 17:00 | comment | added | Pete B. | Excellent answer. I am sure it was the author in error despite he being Swedish. This occured in one of the "Girl with the Dragon Tattoo" novels. | |
Jun 1, 2023 at 9:38 | comment | added | MichaelK | As for "passed out on the floor" and "could not be sure that they were faking and would spring on you", well, it would be easy to author a scenario where this would be a viable justification. We can also author one where it is not. But — yes — your subjective appraisal of the situation and what could happen next will be considered. Do note though that this is very much a "common sense" paragraph, and you could very well be getting "No, now you are just being silly, telling us that" back. In short: do not abuse the right to self-defence for funsies or retribution. | |
Jun 1, 2023 at 9:35 | comment | added | MichaelK | @nick012000 There was a quite known case where a home owner shot two assailants as they were running away. One of them fell, injured, the home owner walked up, put a shot in their chest and they died. The sentence was manslaughter and aggravated assault, resulted in compensatory damages being paid to the family of the killed, and the injured one. | |
Jun 1, 2023 at 9:22 | comment | added | nick012000 | "the classic reason for why people do get convicted even acting in peril is when they keep harming the assailant after the danger has passed" By that, do you mean "running away, outside the house" or "passed out on the floor"? For the latter, would the defense of "I didn't know if he was faking it or not! If he was, he could spring up and murder me once I lowered my guard!" work? | |
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