Timeline for A marriage ceremony that was missing a person
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| Oct 29 at 16:04 | comment | added | Gerard Ashton | In Vermont a marriage manual for town clerks issued by the Secretary of State says both parties must sign the application for a marriage license, but only one needs to sign the license (a different form) in person at the clerk's office. At the time of the ceremony only the officiant has to sign. The marriage isn't official until the ceremony occurs and the officiant returns the license to the town clerk. | |
| Oct 29 at 10:33 | history | edited | Trish |
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| Dec 22, 2023 at 16:58 | comment | added | user3897315 | CA may have the most liberal option for officiants: anybody can be deputized for a day to officiate a wedding. (There's a $120 fee). No need to be clergy, or to go through a sham on-line ordination, although that can cost less than $120. Officiant must agree to follow the requirements to make things legal. It's been a long time since I was married this way, but I'm guessing that legal would not include forging an absent person's signature, or when one of the party is unable to explicitly agree to the marriage. | |
| Dec 21, 2023 at 22:58 | comment | added | njzk2 | why does it matter what gender they are, and how does someone get married without signing a marriage contract? | |
| Dec 21, 2023 at 18:39 | comment | added | MonkeyZeus | @barbecue Right, this arrangement upholds the separation of church and state by making such services voluntary. | |
| Dec 21, 2023 at 18:19 | comment | added | barbecue | @MonkeyZeus Being married by a minister is allowed not required. Other possible officiants include clerks of the court and judges. In my state, notaries public can also officiate marriages. Atheists are free to use whatever legally recognized officiant they want, including ordained ministers if one is willing and available. Some churches may restrict what they allow their ministers to do, but that's not a legal restriction. Some churches exist specifically to provide this service. | |
| Dec 21, 2023 at 18:06 | comment | added | MonkeyZeus | @barbecue So some states grant ministers proxy powers as a government clerk? It certainly reinforces some people's delusion of the church's power but what stops them from getting married with no religious involvement? So atheists aren't allowed to marry in that state? | |
| Dec 21, 2023 at 16:27 | comment | added | barbecue | @MonkeyZeus Actually, many states do recognize ordained ministers as officiants for performing marriage ceremonies. The marriage license must be obtained from the courthouse, but a license doesn't mean you're married. The officiant must meet with the parties and they must agree that they want to marry. | |
| Dec 21, 2023 at 14:25 | comment | added | MonkeyZeus | You get married at the courthouse/town hall. The rest is a social endeavor. Just because a marriage is recognized by the state, does not mean it is automatically recognized by the church and vice versa. See separation of State and Church. | |
| Dec 21, 2023 at 12:57 | vote | accept | Bob | ||
| Dec 21, 2023 at 12:50 | comment | added | komodosp | As in they forged the signature of the person not present? | |
| Dec 21, 2023 at 12:47 | comment | added | Bob | The minister did it. | |
| Dec 21, 2023 at 12:45 | comment | added | komodosp | Who signed the marriage certificate? | |
| Dec 21, 2023 at 9:34 | history | became hot network question | |||
| Dec 20, 2023 at 22:02 | answer | added | ohwilleke | timeline score: 23 | |
| Dec 20, 2023 at 21:53 | history | asked | Bob | CC BY-SA 4.0 |