Timeline for What is the status (and value) of the day’s unsold newspapers being put out for collection by the paper boy?
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Jan 5 at 21:49 | comment | added | nanoman | "further conversion of the £0.50 the shop lost in earnings from selling it" -- I disagree with this because, by putting it out for collection, the shop already deemed the newspaper unsellable to the public. At the point when Bob took it, the newspaper (due to its age and imminent obsolescence) was never going to be sold for £3 regardless of Bob's actions. | |
Jan 5 at 21:25 | comment | added | Kevin | @Nimloth: The fact that somebody else's property is unmarked does not entitle random people to steal it. You can't just go around taking things that don't belong to you. | |
Jan 5 at 20:23 | comment | added | Trish | @bdsl because the retailer pays for all newspapers that are not back on the publisher's truck. | |
Jan 5 at 20:18 | comment | added | bdsl | Why do you assume in the sale or return case that the newspapers are property of the retailer at the point one is taken? Why not assume that they are property of the publisher having been put out for return. You assume that they are the property of the waste disposal company at the equivalent point. And the value of the old papers to the publisher is very close to zero. | |
Jan 5 at 17:01 | comment | added | supercat | What if someone were to tear the banner section off of a newspaper, in the same manner as the store would do so for returns, and leave it behind along with a quantity of clean newspaper that weighed about the same? The recycling company would receive the same amount of pulp as they would have without such action, and the store would still have the material it needed to return to the publisher. | |
Jan 5 at 14:47 | comment | added | Nimloth | The stack of unread papers is out on the pavement. Let's assume it's unmarked, and doesn't have a sign saying "Property of XYZ Paper Waste Co. , do not touch". So is Bob really committing theft if he takes one? Does it depend on whether Bob is aware of the arrangement with XYZ Paper Waste? Does it matter if he thinks it's just garbage that was negligently left in the street? | |
Jan 5 at 11:22 | history | edited | Trish | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Jan 5 at 11:21 | comment | added | Chris H | A term that might be of interest is Sale or Reurn, which applies more broadly. Newspapers (especially old ones) are low enough in value that they're left unattended and obvious, but otherwise the process is nothing special | |
Jan 5 at 11:18 | comment | added | Trish | @Stef They might require the cover page to be handed back for accounting of the refund amount. | |
Jan 5 at 11:16 | comment | added | Stef | Interestingly, sometimes a mix of the two happens. Maybe not for newspapers, but at least for weekly magazines, occasionally the publisher is not interested in collecting the unsold magazines, and will instead refund them but instruct the shop to dispose of them. The exact disposing method is up to the shop; usually the publisher just insists that the shop should remove the front- and back-cover from the magazines to make sure that they cannot be sold. I had friends whose parents worked in a shop like that, and the kids used to read the coverless magazines. | |
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Jan 5 at 1:48 | comment | added | Trish | @TylerDurden the overwhelming number are picked up, but a couple "handout" gazettes (mostly: advertizement leaflets) are thrown out, but they also do not get sold by the shops but handed out free. | |
Jan 5 at 0:37 | comment | added | TylerDurden | My understanding has always been that they get sent back to the publishers, not the waste disposal company. | |
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Jan 4 at 23:56 | history | answered | Trish | CC BY-SA 4.0 |