It strongly appears that the State of Florida has in place an operation, or device, to make sure that you are arrested for driving while license suspended ("DWLS"). The scheme is as follows, 1) FL DMV suspends your license for some reason not even related to driving safety, 2) the FL DMV fails to send you the required notification letter so you are unaware that your license is suspend, 3) the FL DMV sends your suspension information to the National Driver Register ("NDR") so that if you are stopped in another state you will also be arrested, 4) you have to pay $150.00 to get the suspension lifted even if you can prove that the FL DMV suspended your license without just cause. My theory is that FL is depriving me of my 5th Amendment rights by setting in motion a chain of events that will guarantee that I am arrested if I am ever stopped thus depriving me of my freedom without due process because I was never given due process to defend against the charges.

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    I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's a rant, not a question about the law. Jul 15, 2019 at 18:39
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    While the tome is somewhat ranting, the question is legitimate -- is the described chain of actions a violation of the right of due process, as made applicable against the states by the US 14th amendment. The question could be edited for tone. Jul 16, 2019 at 23:39
  • Minor nitpick. Your right to due process vis-a-vis the State of Florida arises from the 14th Amendment and not the 5th Amendment. The 5th Amendment due process clause per se is only applicable to the federal government although case law under that clause of the 5th Amendment greatly informs 14th Amendment jurisprudence.
    – ohwilleke
    Jul 17, 2019 at 1:16

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There are two primary parts to the question. The first is, is it a violation of the due process clauses to deprive you of property or liberty without following the law: the answer is, it is. If you did not violate any law, you cannot legally be punished. That does not mean that you understand the law correctly, e.g. you may not be aware that non-payment of child support or writing rubber checks is grounds for license suspension. The second part is, can they follow a secret process where you are not informed of the charges or the results of the legal proceeding? That too is a requirement (known as procedural due process), see this article. You must be made aware that your license is subject to suspension and has been suspended. Your attorney would have to advise you, based on the details of your specific circumstance, whether your procedural due process rights had been violated. For example, if you write a rubber check, you will be ordered to appear in court (there's your notice). If you fail to show up, they can suspend your license. However, under F.S. 322.251, they do have to "notify" you that your license was suspended. The law says that

Such mailing by the department constitutes notification, and any failure by the person to receive the mailed order will not affect or stay the effective date or term of the cancellation, suspension, revocation, or disqualification of the licensee’s driving privilege.

This kind of "we sent it" definition of giving notice is probably universal in the US: no jurisdiction allows the "I never got it" defense.

  • Is it a defence to 'driving while suspended' that you were unaware of the suspension? I can see arguments either way. Jul 16, 2019 at 9:28
  • @TimLymington Probably boils down to the exactly language of the driving while suspended statute language and related case law.
    – ohwilleke
    Jul 17, 2019 at 1:18
  • Just an update; The National Driver's Register ("NDR") does not have any info about any suspension from Florida from what they tell me. I think that this is all because I uncovered the longest running fraud scheme in the history of the state of Florida, the Section 23 Fraud Case out of Charlotte County Florida. I got a speed ticket last month and my record clean, no suspension. FL said that they suspended my DL since 01/2019. I called my home state and they said that they did not have anything from FL DMV and had only suspension from NC. The lawyer that I am after practices in FL and NC.
    – McFIG
    Jul 17, 2019 at 12:36

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