Timeline for "Discrimination" due to COVID-19 Certificate requirements
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| S Aug 8, 2021 at 18:35 | history | mod moved comments to chat | |||
| S Aug 8, 2021 at 18:35 | comment | added | feetwet♦ | Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat. | |
| Aug 8, 2021 at 0:19 | comment | added | phoog | @DavidSiegel in addition to that, the idea that a member state can meaningfully "ensure that citizens are informed ... that no one is under ... social ... pressure to be vaccinated" is frankly ludicrous. I mean, you can tell them that, but doing so has no effect on the social pressure that they actually do or don't experience. | |
| Aug 8, 2021 at 0:11 | comment | added | David Siegel | @Iñaki Viggers that is a resolution from the Council of Europe, which is not a legislative body. It urges member states and the EU to notify all that vaccination is not mandatory and to ensure that no one is discriminated against for not being vaccinated. this is not a law, court decision or other legally binding rule that such discrimination is unlawful. It is merely advocacy. | |
| Aug 7, 2021 at 23:17 | history | edited | Iñaki Viggers | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Incorporated reference apropos of David Siegel's comment.
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| Aug 7, 2021 at 22:56 | comment | added | Iñaki Viggers | @DavidSiegel "I would like to see specific cites to cases or occasions when .restrictions on unvaccinated people or other restrictions to control disease, have been held unlawful discrimination." See item 7.3.1 of Resolution 2361 of the Parliamentary Assembly (urging Member states to "ensure that citizens are informed that the vaccination is not mandatory and that no one is under political, social or other pressure to be vaccinated if they do not wish to do so"). | |
| Aug 7, 2021 at 21:31 | comment | added | phoog | Mandatory vaccination does require some people to submit to something they disagree with, but the same is true of other government mandates, including taxation and traffic regulations. | |
| Aug 7, 2021 at 21:27 | comment | added | phoog | The Christianity argument is inapt: conversion is a public affirmation of faith, and mandatory conversion is directly against freedom of belief. But mandatory vaccination does not require the patient to change what they think about vaccines, nor to make any statements of belief that are contrary to their conscience. A closer analogy might be a requirement to undergo a security screening to enter a stadium. Does it discriminate against those whose conscience dictates that they must carry a dangerous weapon at all times? Yes. Is that discrimination illegal? No. | |
| Aug 7, 2021 at 21:12 | comment | added | David Siegel | I do not think that the analogy between carrying a disease and holding certain religious views is valid, useful or persuasive. While various EU country laws prohibit discrimination against those who hold a particular belief, that does not mean that all actions taken in support of or because of that belief are protected. I would like to see specific cites to cases or occasions when .restrictions on unvaccinated people or other restrictions to control disease, have been held unlawful discrimination. I doubt that laws in Europe would be or have been interpreted in such a way. | |
| Aug 7, 2021 at 17:54 | history | edited | Iñaki Viggers | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Aug 7, 2021 at 17:49 | history | answered | Iñaki Viggers | CC BY-SA 4.0 |