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I generally carry my gun concealed, inside the waistband with a shirt or jacket over it. If I were to tuck said shirt in, the grip will show.

Is this now considered open carry, or does the whole gun have to be showing?

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    Legally speaking, this is an interesting question. Non-legally speaking, this is a bad idea.
    – Ryan M
    Commented Feb 23, 2021 at 3:52
  • @RyanM What makes you think a holster isnt being used? In waistband holsters are quite common, maybe even the most common type of holster used by people carrying concealed.
    – Matt
    Commented Feb 23, 2021 at 12:53

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It will hinge on the specific facts, but if the pistol is not discernible by casual observation it will most likely be regarded as concealed.

Michigan Open Carry Inc's FAQ #11 asks:

Can I open carry with an inside the waistband/inside the pants (IWB) holster?

The Michigan Court of Appeals appears to answer this in People v Curtis Phillips (1996) (unpublished):

In the case, officers observed Mr. Phillips standing on a nearby porch with the butt of a gun protruding out of his waistband. The Court held that the pistol was not visible under "ordinary observation” and therefore "A casual observer may not have discerned the object in defendant’s waistband."

Essentially, it's up to the "trier of fact", meaning open to interpretation for a judge in a bench trial, or a jury in a jury trial.

The FAQ goes on to quote The Michigan Court of Appeals per curiam in People v Curtis Phillips (1996)

Defendant argues that the evidence was insufficient to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he “concealed” a handgun because the arresting officers could see the butt of a gun protruding from his waistband. We disagree.

To determine whether a rational trier of fact could have found that the essential elements of the crime were proven beyond a reasonable doubt, this Court views the evidence in the light most favorable to the prosecution. People v Wolfe, 440 Mich 508, 515; 489 NW2d 748 (1992). A conviction for carrying a concealed weapon without a license requires proof that the accused concealed a dangerous weapon. People v Pickett, 21 Mich App 246, 248; 175 NW2d 347 (1970). Concealment is a question of fact and exists when the weapon is “not discernible by the ordinary observation of [those] coming in contact with [the accused], casually observing him, as people do in the ordinary and usual associations of life.” People v Johnnie W Jones, 12 Mich App 293, 296; 162 NW2d 847 (1968).

While searching the area for gunmen after a reported shooting, the arresting officers observed defendant standing on a nearby porch with the butt of a handgun protruding from his waistband. They were able to identify this object as the butt of a handgun based on their training and experience. The officers were not “casually observing” defendant “in the ordinary and usual associations of life,” and this was not “ordinary observation” because the officers were searching for armed suspects. A casual observer may not have discerned the object in defendant’s waistband. Therefore, viewing the evidence in the light most favorable to the prosecution, a rational trier of fact could conclude there was sufficient evidence that defendant concealed a gun in his waistband.

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